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I'm a college student who won a chunky settlement and have been using it to pay for my living expenses. However, sick of seeing my bank account slowly deminish, I've been searching for a way to make enough money to pay for gas, beer money and sushi that only consist of me sitting at my computer for an hour or two a few days a week. I came across Forex trading and have been researching it thouroughly. After reading daily journals of traders it seems almost all of them barely break even in the long run. I feel they might as well be playing online poker. Is it worth it? Any other ideas? Is futures trading any better?
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Well first of all I don't know of any successful Forex traders that post their journals. They are quite happy to make a nice return on their investment without having to toot their horn

There are some conservative strategies to invest in the forex market that many people consider too boring and evidently not complicated enough. It seems there is a breed of players entering the Forex market the same way they would belly up to a roulette wheel in Las Vegas.

I ran an analysis a couple of weeks ago that you may find interesting. First of all it is important to note that this is based on historical prices and is not necessarily representative of future results. But it is interesting.

Let's say that you opened a conservative hedge trade on the 1st of any month this year.with $10,000 and used a conservative margin of 10% You just let the account sit and didn't touch it what would it have looked like on 7/20/2007 (the day I ran the analysis).

If you opened your account on

Jan 1st = $13,161 on 7/20/2007
Feb 1st = $13,645
Mar 1st = $11,924
Apr 1st = $12,045
May 1st = $10,473
Jun 1st = $10,530

None of these accounts would have ever been close to a margin call and the Jan and Feb accounts would seem to have faired quite well through the China correction during late Feb / early Mar.

So I guess the morale of the story is that it is not the Forex market that is the problem. It is the human elements of greed, fear, lack of knowledge and lack of a conservative investment strategy.

It's not what you do it's how you do it!

Good luck with your decision process.

Paul

I know a professional Forex Trader who has been trading for 25 years as his job, I was thinking about taking out a $10,000 Line of Credit and having him add it to his funds and be my trader. He averages 1-3% a day and takes a 25% commission. So I would make $1,500 profit a month off the line of credit…

Is this illegal?

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There are clearly no legal issues for you. You can do whatever you'd like with your money. However, there may be some legal issues for him. "He takes a 25% commission" sounds like he takes 25% of the profits. In order for him to take an incentive fee like that, he would probably need to have a hedge fund structure. That is, he would have an investment vehicle that allows him to take your money.

If that's true, he would need to make sure that you are an accredited investor. That is, satisfying the following:

"a natural person who has individual net worth, or joint net worth with the person’s spouse, that exceeds $1 million at the time of the purchase;

a natural person with income exceeding $200,000 in each of the two most recent years or joint income with a spouse exceeding $300,000 for those years and a reasonable expectation of the same income level in the current year; or

a trust with assets in excess of $5 million, not formed to acquire the securities offered, whose purchases a sophisticated person makes."

If you don't satisfy that he would need to jump through some real hoops to be able to collect that incentive fee and not run afoul of the rules. Given these issues, I recommend that you spend some time talking to him as well as talking to an investment pro before you invest.

Good luck.

I have received some good answers on here about avoiding penny stocks. One suggested I go with trading in the Forex. How much money can I make on a $1,000 dollar trade for one day? Thanks everyone for your help!
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It's not all doom and gloom. There are many successful retail forex traders out there who do quite well. All of them started with a small trading budget. There are also many sites where you can learn forex for free and practice trading using a demo account, also free. Check out:
www.babypips.com
www.forex4noobs.com
www.forexfactory.com
I have been talking with a professional forex trader and he says he has been trading for 25 years and he can manage an account for me that earns between 1-3% a day for around 20% a month. Can experienced traders really make this much on large accounts?
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20% or more DAY is possible, but you can lose just as quickly.
2 trillion dollars traded each and every day. 400:1 on your money. Currency is not easily manipulated, unlike corporations. With proven systems available to the average Joe, why is this forum not loaded with questions pertaining to the foreign currency exchange market?
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All trading is tough. The previous posters cite the 90% of forex traders lose money. True. But they fail to tell you that 90% of people trading equities lose money also. Trading, whether it's equities, fx or futures is tough. Actually, I think the numbers are 90% for equities and 97% for futures/forex traders.

The first poster that said to trade currency futures is insane. Futures contracts possess the potential for unlimited losses. Like the one poster said, you can lose 100% in fx, but you can loss 200% in futures. I've seen several instances of futures traders losing their entire account and then having to cough up more money to cover the losses above what was in their account. If you have a $10,000 futures account, you could realistically lose $50,000 on a trade that goes horribly wrong and you'd have to come up with an additional $40,000 to cover the loss above the $10,000 in your account. In fx, you can only lose your entire account.

I am an fx trader and I love it, but I don't think it's for everyone. It bothers me when a person knocks a specific investment vehicle because they don't like it or it doesn't fit their investment style. I don't like medicine. The hours are long, the field is tough, but I wouldn't go knocking being a doctor. Because it's not what interests me or what I want to do doesn't mean it's a bad occupation. There are people out there that love medicine and are geniuses in the field. It's good for them, but it's not good for everyone.

The same thing with investments, I love the high risk markets, but only a small percentage of the population are suited for them. Doesn't make them bad.

I really wish people would stop being so judgmental about things they don't like or don't understand. If forex trading is not for them, then they should just say, "Hey, I don't like it, but that's me", instead of making it out to be an evil that EVERYONE should stay away from.