& after i sold those four stocks could i buy them all back today?
just an example… i dont need to here any lectures about daytrading

not day trading here would mean that the brokerage would be charged at delivery rates and not day trades, even though u havent received delivery of shares.

I have one that considers that one trade,,(as long as shares bot are sold that day) but another might consider it 2 or 3 trades,, you'd need to find a broker that day traders use

It seems to be any five business days.
Ive been doing really well with "day trading" SKF. I short it and buy at certain times. I cover my own rear with different trades and lock in a gauranteed return. my thing is I dont want to be labeled a day trader because I dont have the $25,000 to fork over.
ok I havent been buying and selling in the same day, I buy one day and sell the next. is that a day trader or a pattern trader?

A day trader buys and sells a security in a given day, so they have no open positions at the close of business.
A pattern trader is any margin customer that day trades (buys then sells or sells short then buys the same security on the same day) four or more times in five business days, provided the number of day trades are more than six percent of the customer’s total trading activity for that same five-day period.
As a pattern trader, you must carry a minimum equity of $25,000 at all times
can i short sell and buy the SAME share twice or thrice in ONE day or in Intraday ?
for example
Transaction Quantity Amount
Shortsell 100 * $50 = $5000 at time 10:00 AM
buy 100 * $45 = $4500 at time 11:30 AM
Shortsell 50 * $50 = $2500 at time 1:00 PM
buy 50 * $40 = $2000 at time 3:30 PM
and now i want to short sell again the same ebay shares twice or thrice in one day or in intraday.
is it allowed to trading like this ??

Make sure that when you close the short position you "cover" rather than "buy." If you just buy you open a new position and be long and short.
Also, if you have a loss it is not disallowed. If you have a loss and then trade the same stock within 31 days, the loss is deferred. The loss is used to adjust your basis on the subsequent transaction.
Also, be aware that trading that way will quickly get you labeled as a pattern day trader. (4 or more day trades in any 5 consecutive business days earns you that labeled.) At which point you must have a margin account and maintain a minimum balance of $25,000.00.
The above is for trading in the US.
Thanks!
btw I'm only 16 and all I have is $1000.
hmm… guess I didn't read far enough into my books. thanks, though!

1. As another stated, you can't open an account at 16.
2. As soon as you are labeled a pattern day trader, you will be required to have a margin account and maintain a minimum balance of $25,000.00. (Four or more day trades within five consecutive business days earns that label.)
Continue to study and save your money. You should also open a practice account. Then when you are old enough to open an account, start with regular investing, not day trading.
If you want to pursue day trading, wait until after you obtain some experience investing with real money at risk.


1. Four (or more) day trades within five consecutive business days. A business day is any day the stock market is open. Weekends and holidays don't count. Think of this as a rolling five day period, each day starting a new five day period.
2. More than 6% of the total trades in that five day period are day trades. Examples:
If you make 100 trades, 6% of 100 is 6. So if you make four day trades, you did not meet that criteria, and are not a pattern day trade.
If you make 50 trades during that that 5 day period, 6% of 50 is three. So if four of those were day trades, you would be classified as a pattern day trader.
From a practical standpoint, unless you are an extremely active trader, it is very easy to exceed the 6% criteria. So the best thing to do is focus on the "four or more" unless you want that label.

If you make 4 or more day trades within any 5 consecutive business you will be classified as a pattern day trader. At that point you must have a margin account and maintain a minimum balance of $25,000.00. This is a regulatory requirement. Your broker cannot make exceptions.
Also, in a cash account if you try to do a lot of trading, the T+3 settlement time is going to come into play. That means that when you sell a stock it takes 3 business days for the trade to settle. You can use those proceeds to buy another stock. But you can not sell that new purchase until the first sale has settled. (T+3 also applies to buys, it just isn't as significant for the buyer.)
I am a serious beginner … but very open to any suggestions.

You don't have to be a day trader to be successful as a trader. Explore your possibilities and educate yourself and put in the required time and you WILL be successful! Good luck!!



